Ship maintenance reduced to 10%. Rulers lose prestige when at peace for too long. Sacrifice action (unless Peaceful). First two cancel themselves if they are picked together. CK2 Pagan Reformation - Natures The first thing you will choose is one Nature. Even as Catholic I would land my kin (I tried to do that as Muslim and learned the hard way via decadence revolts to never do it again). The first thing you will choose is one Nature. They also gain access to Great Holy Wars if the Catholics have unlocked Crusades or the Muslims have unlocked Jihads. While its holy sites are in locations which are easily taken, most of them lack a temple holding which means holy sites only give half of the usual Moral Authority, forcing Tengri rulers to either build temples or take control of all holy sites. By PegaluxX, January 4, 2019 in Crusader Kings 2. In game terms, reformed pagans no longer face the restrictions on crown authority, succession, independence wars and conversion that other pagans do. AI rulers only convert same-group provinces and only when zealous. AI looter prefer coastal counties. Holy Sites: Also I would totally put Survivors of Ukko higher. Stuff that sounds good at first sometimes turns out to be not so great. Rulers can order subject to Take the Vows, disqualifying them from succession. I like equality. if you raid a lot + capture bonus from society + capture bonus from the military trait. Penalty to moral authority (-15%) and to mission. Seers (court chaplains) have a significant penalty to the chance to convert provinces on top of their likely-lower moral authority, and vassals cannot be demanded to convert. B. Doctrine 1: Polygamy: To make best use of Imperial Succession, having loads of wives is good as you can pick the best heir one of them pops out. Crusader Kings is a historical grand strategy / RPG video game series for PC, Mac, Linux, PlayStation 5 & Xbox Series X|S developed & published by Paradox Interactive. For conquests Islam is way too OP if you're not a nomad. It has its downsides because it makes AI more aggressive and incompetent AI can tank our MA very hard. However, other rulers will have a choice. Tax on subjects of different religious groups is allowed. Edit: mixed it up, retaining matrilineal lines if you ever want to go back to male rulers will be trouble, not the other way around. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Just know ahead of time that the owner of the title can't marry or be betrothed unless they have another title like count or something. Pagans can grant themselves divorces at will, but with a significant cash payment for the divorce and a -30 relation penalty to the divorcee's family. Gurus. I've gained several kingdoms w/o trying to; I was just trying to get their bloodlines in my main line. Ancestor Worship decision available. Incompatible with Eternal Riders and Invaders doctrines. Crusader Kings II. It says we can spend piety to improve curtier abilities but we can do it once per 5 years and can improve stat for one point. It's hard for me to rate a largely RNG mechanic highly. Also for flavour. Agnatic law is enforced, open succession law is unlocked. Raiding unavailable if culture doesn't allow raiding.Hunting focus is unavailable.Holy wars and great holy wars are unavailable, but county conquest CB is available.Dueling comes with a Piety cost.Cannot create warrior lodge if it does not already exist.AI rulers will not convert provinces. Priests cannot inherit. While three of the faith's holy sites are in Scandinavia, the other two are in mainland Europe and often held by strong Christian rulers. If there is levy size & attack bonus from unreformed religion, it is lost. Hierocratic/Autocephalous is also doable but the religious head can be a real moron and not call GHW as soon as it becomes available. Pagans may fight back in the name of the old gods, and even seek to eliminate the monotheists from Europe. This attrition only applies in provinces of the same religion as their ruler, so Germanic pagans won't lower their enemies' supply limits in Slavic territory. Totally fine for religions without 30% levy bonus, but if you want to expand then other natures are better. (Hellenic religion lacks concubines), You can't declare holy wars if You have the peaceful doctrine. But it's because I favor Unyielding nature, and those two don't work well together. 2019, Foreign missionaries become more effective, venerate a given ancestor, in a process similar to sainthood, https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/index.php?title=Pagans&oldid=43605, Play Nomads have their unique nomadic succession which does not split the realm like gavelkind. You are using an out of date browser. Priests cannot marry and cannot inherit. Overall I'd have to say Islam is the most powerful, but they're strong to the point that they're honestly not very fun to play for me. Generic Pagan rulers cannot be created with Ruler Designer but there are few events in game which spawn Pagan courtiers to game, which permit granting of titles or education of children. To help in the struggle against unbelievers, each reformed faith gets a single holy order. However, the Tengri faith does not die out during the entire period of the game and there are always relatively strong rulers for it in the game. Agnatic, agnatic-cognatic, cognatic laws are restricted. Great work!!! I like this feature but it's tough to convert others outside your realm. There are provinces with Bn faith in Tibet throughout the game but last playable rulers vanish in 1251, leaving Buddhists ruling Tibet. As such, it is best used when the player is ready for their nation to "mature" from aggressive expansion against small targets to needing to maintain an empire. Moral Authority edit Main article: Moral authority The only cb you'll ever need is alexanders invasion. Concubines not allowed. Eldership succession law is allowed. Proselytizing allows for faster conversion and you can also try to convert AI leaders with your court chaplain/diviner (or whatever the position is called). 100% objectively correct scientific analysis of the civilized/barbaric nature of every religion and heresy's gameplay features in CK2. Other pagan faiths have different modifiers. The reformed Pagan religions are usually pretty nice. Most pagans may raid neighboring provinces (and coastal provinces, if ships are available) for loot and prestige, even without a tribal government (which majority of the pagans are). Reformed pagans no longer get a defense attrition bonus, and will incur attrition in the territory of unreformed pagans, except those who follow the old form of their own religion. Have fun dealing with retaining those. It got to the point where I was raiding not based on gold or number of holdings or artifacts or anything like that, but simply based on the size of the ruler's court; I figured it would give me more chances to capture folks for the sacrifices. It has synergy with enatic/agnatic or meritocracy, after 9 successful boosts for close family relative we get a bloodline. Helps a lot when vs crusades or aztecs trying to meme on you. Possibility for a woman to take consorts is disallowed even if other traits should unlock it. Knowing that Civilized is the best "peaceful" doctrine, pair that with stability, temporal so you decide your own holy wars and get a permanent artifact and set it to proselytize so that every follower of your religious works to eliminate religious bordergore. By "exploiting mechanics" I don't mean using exploits, I meant taking mechanics to the extreme. Suomenusko retains a sizable number of provinces throughout the game and it is very easy to put the fear of Ukko to other religions, whether you start in 769, 867 or 1066. The Orthodox Pentarchy is also fun. The other pagan faiths have a duke-level religious leader who becomes a vassal of the reforming ruler, similar to the Orthodox religion's patriarch. I think Polygamy would be powerful. Answered, CK2 (Crusader Kings II): Immortality Event ID and Guide, CK2 (Crusader Kings II): Strange Chest Item and Event Results. As I said, civilized isnt good for Roman emperor as he is locked into imperial elective, and lets be honest, if we are reforming hellenic religion then we are 99% roman emperor, Problem, realize that I'm a couple months late, but stability is a doctrine, not a nature, sorry, that's bugging me, "I changed my mind about divine marriage doctrine, it actually allows us to breed new bloodlines fairly easy into our dynasty.". They can easily convert provinces by pillaging every holding in a province. Charlemagne starts I tried so far seem to be financially starved, since it takes forever to get the basic naval tech and start raiding proper. Enatic-cognatic law is available. Thats all for now! Valve Corporation. No penalty for female rulers. I used it in my game Tengri Horde Jurchen Reformed Bon Chinese Empire and just dominated silk road. Ilmen in 769 already holds Novgorod as its capital, is a decently strong start, and has the advantage of being able to flip to Russian culture once the faith is reformed, allowing the acquisition of the "Russkaya Pravda" achievement. With the Holy Fury expansion, requirements for reformation remain unchanged, but the player may select four "traits" for religion, which affects the set of available mechanics for the religion and provides various bonuses. being able to roleplay as discount Vikings as any pagan religion can be fun, and using rivers is always an interesting mechanic. Ancestor Worship. I'm still mad how badly Shia got shafted over the development of the game. I find one of the most boring parts of Pagan games is that theres no other friendly or same religion nations, pagan games often end up just being your country vs the world in holy wars. Access to monastic feudal government with Tibeto-Burman culture group. Now that you have no fast way to expand through pagan lands, you may wish to convert to a culture that allows use of the Tribal Invasion CB, so you can quickly expand through infidel lands instead. If you have tribal government, it is recommended to choose either Agnatic Clans or Enatic Clans doctrine to avoid Gavelkind succession law. Possibility for a woman to take consorts is disallowed even if other traits should unlock it. I agree, meliorism should have notification. So is it bug or is it not a bug? Enatic clans is still good because vassal duchies wont merge every generation but they're infinitely worse than agnatic clans. If we pick it as germanic, tengri or aztec we will lose any troop bonus that we couldve inherited from unreformed religion. Reformed religions lose access to subjugation wars, one of the fastest ways for pagans to expand. Matrilineal marriages are disabled. Except if you have founded bloodines with male rulers already. You also have to remember the example you've given is a really fringe situation exploiting several mechanics. Unyielding: This would be my number one if I had to chose. However, a religion can only have one "unit modifier", so offensive pagans will lose levy size and other bonuses if they select a reformation feature that adds a competing "unit modifier". Duke-tier religious heads common for all realms. More posts you may like r/CrusaderKings Join 3 days ago CK2 6.4K 103 r/CrusaderKings 5 days ago Rulers with Zunist holy sites in their demesne may also secretly convert to the faith. However, the religion's holy sites are scattered far and wide making reformation very hard. Engage in courtly intrigue, dynastic struggles, and holy warfare in medival Europe, North Africa, the Middle East, India, the steppes and Tibet. What options do you think is best for each, norse, slavic, tengri, etc? I will explain at the end of paragraph. There's a mod that fixes this. If there is levy size & attack bonus from unreformed religion, levy & garrison bonus from Unyielding nature or offensive bonus of Unrelenting doctrine in the first doctrine slot, it is lost. Matrilineal marriages are disabled. However, the longer the faith goes unreformed, the weaker it becomes. Reforming also provides access to the full set of feudal succession laws. Combined with not paying any penalty for raising their vassals' levies, this means offensive pagans can muster forces far beyond what their technological levels would suggest. Its holy sites are scattered around the map but are mostly controlled by right religion, even in 1066 starting date. Though, Unyielding isnt perfect. Patron Deities, Ancestor Worship. Depends on what you want. The religious head can decide upon death to venerate a given ancestor, in a process similar to sainthood. Holy sites: Perm, Ryazan, Novgorod (shared with Slavic), Saaremaa, and Kexholm. its the left over generic pagan religion that isnt used anymore since old gods actually separated it into different pagan religions #12 I will explain some of my choices based on how it worked out in my games. Levy size bonus from unreformed Aztec faith will be lost. Peaceful nature is powerful if you have a huge realm . Germanic pagans do not have to reform to create the Jomsvikings; instead, they must control Stettin, Wolgast, Rgen or Werle.). Reformer picks two doctrines. I think the only time I mention something similar is switching to Germanic to use Prepared Invasion in the context of Daring. Crusader Kings II. He is a culturally Norse Germanic pagan but has a Slavic son. +40% garrison size in county of this religion. To even start thinking about CK2s Pagan Reformation, you will first need to conquer three of the holy sites of your religion. The only issue is there is a bug (Snow Crystal pretty much confirmed it's a bug). AI rulers will try to convert their provinces. C. Civilized/Religious Tax: The best Doctrine you can possibly pick. Only if I could mark "Helpful" multiple times Is making your concubine who was a "raid-captured daughter of enemy duke" your vassal queen, and then murdering her an exploit? I wish it was more interactive (e.g. I haven't reformed a lot of pagan faiths, but when I do reform a pagan faith, I tend to pick the same four options every time (Unyielding - Enatic Clans & Unique - Autonomous). Unrelenting also ignores unreformed pagan attrition but we can easily overcome it with tech later in game. Autonomous leadership bonus for an attribute depends on original pagan religion. Tax on subjects of different religious group is allowed. Unyielding is a must for small Pagan surrounded by powerful Abrahamic realms. Only disadvantage is that AI rulers will never convert counties but you can do that yourself). Reformed offensive pagans no longer lose prestige when at peace. Patron Deities. Children of Perun is weak. Blood sacrifices is super fun, esp. I think that'd be the best. These doctrines are tied to the reformer's religion. Stability removes short reign penalty, which was not a problem for me ever. Rulers can choose to gain sympathy with another faith by decisions. And the Indian religions. The new reformation system allows players to build their religion for their preferred play-style and to combine incompatible characteristics. You want to conquer followers of the Cross/Crescent anyways. For hellenic rome, warmongering, unrelenting, civilized and im not sure about the last one since the pontifex maximus was not very strong in his authority, having powers like fixing the calendar. The last playable Germanic ruler available is Arnfast of Vsterbotten, who dies in 1309. Also you cannot create warrior lodge. When you login first time using a Social Login button, we collect your account public profile information shared by Social Login provider, based on your privacy settings. Additionally, those defensive pagans who are tribal, may call forth Devout Warriors (without ). Interesting read. Medieval Dynasty: How to Make a Rabbit Trap, Medieval Dynasty: Can you become King? Doesnt block us from raiding, hunting focus etc. If we pick it as germanic, tengri or aztec we will lose any troop bonus that we couldve inherited from unreformed religion. It is not normally playable (even with Ruler Designer), but can be played using mods or by exploiting loopholes. Agnatic law is enforced, open succession law is unlocked. Proselytizing: I will be honest, I never picked it. Germanic faith is the faith of Scandinavian & Saxon people, worshiping deities like Odin/Wotan. Christianity, Islam, Eastern religions, reformed pagan faith, etc. Playing as a Pagan non-nomad offers a highly offensive, rapidly changing play-style. Lastly, pagans may, by decision, convert to the religion of a spouse or concubine of a different faith. With Holy Fury, Zunists can raid after reformation, as long as the reformed faith does not have the Peaceful nature. but i'm talking about game mechanics here, compared to Catholicism, Orthodoxy in-game has nothing unique really, hell, it didn't even have it's own Holy Order till recently. Animistic has same problems as unrelenting, it gives rite of passage event when reaching adulthood which has some flavour. your character tries to convert them personally, like carousing or something). I picked Daring the first time, which allows prepared invasions, which is useless for the Roman Emperor. you proselyte by sword, not by word. Dawnbreakers is underrated as a way to practice eugenics when combined with meritocracy. Women can take up to 3 consorts. I would suggest against prepared invasions/warmongering as it leads to rather unstable vassals, and generally does not benefit you personally as the leige as you will far exceed the maximum realm size requirement. =/. No Revolt Risk for different religion in county. Reformer becomes the first religious head. With tribal mechanics, pagans cannot raise Tribal Organization very high without having severe relations penalty for tribal Unreformed Pagan vassals (-30 opinion with Absolute). You have the pentarchy system, a patriarch if you are king tier or higher, no pope who steals your money, no overpowered crusades and the like etc. Reformer becomes the first religious head. The "too short ruler" penalty can be brutal if You don't have a majesty level high enough. Inversely, it is much easier for organized religions to convert pagans. Bn rulers are playable with either Jade Dragon, The Old Gods, or Holy Fury. Well. The love of battle among these pagans means that rulers incur no relation penalty with their vassals for having troops raised. Romuva does not disappear from the world at any starting date, but will eventually be pushed back by Christians. that's why those two are different Branches of Christianity, there's big enough difference on some of the theological matters. Keeping moral authority high is also a problem due to weak realms who often lose religious wars. Need the +3 demense to have enough personal levies and also +15 opinion combined with Augustus trait and Born in the Purple ( another +15 opinion) is pretty OP. To get Yourself venerated not only You need to give away Your temporal title (if You took it), it also makes You want to take some of the more questionable traits like "Craven" for Unyielding. using concubines). The best Doctrines by far are the two "Clans" option with the slight edge to Enatic. For example, players who seek to reduce internal conflicts in their country, but still want to expand their boundaries, could use the following culture/religion/doctrine combination: Altaic culture, Tengri, Peaceful, Stability, Equality, Autonomous. Aztec religion only appears in-game if Sunset Invasion DLC is in use. Feudal unreformed pagans typically use gavelkind succession. Reformation tends to grant benefits of stability and the capacity to declare wars on larger-scale targets that smaller pagan nations couldn't attack, but lose many of the benefits that would help a small pagan nation expand more readily or defend itself from larger targets. You finally conquered all the holy sites and can reform your pagan religion in Crusader Kings II (CK2), but there are so many choices now that you just need to look up what everything means. So I'm not a very big fan of Autonomous. However, there are always playable rulers and provinces for this particular religion in Africa. Proselytizing is a must pick if you have a lot of land with conversion resistant heathens, since AI rarely bothers converting them otherwise. PegaluxX. Choosing you own heir and not receiving penalty opinion for raised levies it too good to pass up. The homeland attrition penalty does apply to reformed pagans of another faith, but the "old faith" heresies have no such protection against the reformed churches of their specific branch of paganism. However, its 10% bonus attack for all our troops so it is not that bad I guess, just weird. Ancestor Veneration A for Power, A for Fun, Bloodthirsty Gods B- For Power, A for Fun, Stability/Children of Perun (Slavic)/Survivor of Ukko (Suomenusko). AI rulers will only convert same-group provinces. Eldership succession law is allowed. You have to get a popemon or autocephaly for it though. Access to Hermetic society. All units gain 80% to defense when fighting enemies in a province of the combatant's religion. 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